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> <channel><title>Comments on: The Crazy World of Revenue Attribution</title> <atom:link href="http://www.clickequations.com/blog/2009/01/crazy-revenue-attribution/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.clickequations.com/blog/2009/01/crazy-revenue-attribution/</link> <description>A Long Hard Look At Paid Search Marketing Strategies, Tactics, and Tools</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:28:38 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: staffing</title><link>http://www.clickequations.com/blog/2009/01/crazy-revenue-attribution/comment-page-1/#comment-803</link> <dc:creator>staffing</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:46:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.clickequations.com/blog/?p=854#comment-803</guid> <description>Interesting thoughts well expressed.&lt;br&gt;For more jobs visit  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.staffingpower.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.staffingpower.com&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thoughts well expressed.<br
/>For more jobs visit <a
href="http://www.staffingpower.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.staffingpower.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: staffing</title><link>http://www.clickequations.com/blog/2009/01/crazy-revenue-attribution/comment-page-1/#comment-703</link> <dc:creator>staffing</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:46:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.clickequations.com/blog/?p=854#comment-703</guid> <description>Interesting thoughts well expressed.&lt;br&gt;For more jobs visit  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.staffingpower.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.staffingpower.com&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thoughts well expressed.<br
/>For more jobs visit <a
href="http://www.staffingpower.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.staffingpower.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PPC Myth Week Pt 3: Kill Keywords That Dont Convert &#171; Site2Next</title><link>http://www.clickequations.com/blog/2009/01/crazy-revenue-attribution/comment-page-1/#comment-638</link> <dc:creator>PPC Myth Week Pt 3: Kill Keywords That Dont Convert &#171; Site2Next</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:30:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.clickequations.com/blog/?p=854#comment-638</guid> <description>[...] keyword searches may lead a customer to other sites, not just your own). Craig from ClickEquations shares some actual data on visitor behavior on his [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] keyword searches may lead a customer to other sites, not just your own). Craig from ClickEquations shares some actual data on visitor behavior on his [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PPC Myth Week Pt 3: Kill Keywords That Dont Convert &#187; Ecommerce Blog</title><link>http://www.clickequations.com/blog/2009/01/crazy-revenue-attribution/comment-page-1/#comment-519</link> <dc:creator>PPC Myth Week Pt 3: Kill Keywords That Dont Convert &#187; Ecommerce Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 11:31:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.clickequations.com/blog/?p=854#comment-519</guid> <description>[...] a c&amp;#117stomer to ot&amp;#104er sites, not j&amp;#117st yo&amp;#117r own). Craig from Clic&amp;#107Eq&amp;#117ations &amp;#115hare&amp;#115 &amp;#115ome a&amp;#99tual data o&amp;#110 vi&amp;#115itor behavior on his [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a c&amp;#117stomer to ot&amp;#104er sites, not j&amp;#117st yo&amp;#117r own). Craig from Clic&amp;#107Eq&amp;#117ations &amp;#115hare&amp;#115 &amp;#115ome a&amp;#99tual data o&amp;#110 vi&amp;#115itor behavior on his [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: free satellite keys</title><link>http://www.clickequations.com/blog/2009/01/crazy-revenue-attribution/comment-page-1/#comment-389</link> <dc:creator>free satellite keys</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:09:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.clickequations.com/blog/?p=854#comment-389</guid> <description>Development of digital technologies occurs prompt rates. Does not lag behind progress and digital TV. Speaking about digital TV, we first of all mean satellite TV. The digital satellite TV becomes more and more accessible to simple users. The market paid satellite tv also is not necessary on a place. The new digital standard of TV of high clearness HDTV actively develops and takes root. The satellite TV becomes more and more directed on the spectator. Besides digital quality of the image, advantage of satellite systems also is also the extensive cover zone of the companion.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Development of digital technologies occurs prompt rates. Does not lag behind progress and digital TV. Speaking about digital TV, we first of all mean satellite TV. The digital satellite TV becomes more and more accessible to simple users. The market paid satellite tv also is not necessary on a place. The new digital standard of TV of high clearness HDTV actively develops and takes root. The satellite TV becomes more and more directed on the spectator. Besides digital quality of the image, advantage of satellite systems also is also the extensive cover zone of the companion.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Monday Janurary 26th Roundup &#124; Webbyn.com</title><link>http://www.clickequations.com/blog/2009/01/crazy-revenue-attribution/comment-page-1/#comment-347</link> <dc:creator>Monday Janurary 26th Roundup &#124; Webbyn.com</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:52:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.clickequations.com/blog/?p=854#comment-347</guid> <description>[...] last week, looked at revenue attribution and how they managed to calculate these for ClickEquations itself. A very cool read for those [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] last week, looked at revenue attribution and how they managed to calculate these for ClickEquations itself. A very cool read for those [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Greg Moore</title><link>http://www.clickequations.com/blog/2009/01/crazy-revenue-attribution/comment-page-1/#comment-331</link> <dc:creator>Greg Moore</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:32:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.clickequations.com/blog/?p=854#comment-331</guid> <description>Brian Clifton has a Google Analytics hack in his book, p. 203, &quot;Changing the Referrer Credited for a Conversion.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you happen to know anyone who has tried this?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Clifton has a Google Analytics hack in his book, p. 203, &#8220;Changing the Referrer Credited for a Conversion.&#8221;</p><p>Do you happen to know anyone who has tried this?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Craig Danuloff</title><link>http://www.clickequations.com/blog/2009/01/crazy-revenue-attribution/comment-page-1/#comment-316</link> <dc:creator>Craig Danuloff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 04:41:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.clickequations.com/blog/?p=854#comment-316</guid> <description>Thanks Greg - Interesting thoughts well expressed. We can and will do the analysis, but I worry that there aren&#039;t universal truths even in deep analysis - in other words there are all kinds of visitors who behave all kinds of ways, so there is no right answer. The real &#039;right answer&#039; is to be able to show multiple angles on what the attribution means, so that a keyword doesn&#039;t have one number - the revenue it gets credit for - but many numbers which taken together give the impression/weight of that keyword and they are all considered when a person or an algo decided what to do next about that keyword. Much left to do.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Greg &#8211; Interesting thoughts well expressed. We can and will do the analysis, but I worry that there aren&#39;t universal truths even in deep analysis &#8211; in other words there are all kinds of visitors who behave all kinds of ways, so there is no right answer. The real &#39;right answer&#39; is to be able to show multiple angles on what the attribution means, so that a keyword doesn&#39;t have one number &#8211; the revenue it gets credit for &#8211; but many numbers which taken together give the impression/weight of that keyword and they are all considered when a person or an algo decided what to do next about that keyword. Much left to do.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Greg</title><link>http://www.clickequations.com/blog/2009/01/crazy-revenue-attribution/comment-page-1/#comment-314</link> <dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:51:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.clickequations.com/blog/?p=854#comment-314</guid> <description>Like painting a house, my experience with these projects is that 90% of the job is prep work.  After six months of getting a data set ship shape, relatively simple statistical analysis will produce great results.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I believe Jeff Bezos once said, Amazon&#039;s greatest asset is it&#039;s database.  As the provider of an application, your greatest asset may be having multiple databases, one for each customer, with all databases structured identically.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Once you do the hard work for one customer, the prize will be a database that has been restructured many times, with additional database tables of derived data.  With data that&#039;s just right you can run the statistics and show the results.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The payoff will be that all customers will have the new database, so the usual need for a custom job and expensive prep work will be gone.  Each customer will only need to let their account run and their database fill, and the built in statistics formula will present some wonderful attribution reports.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The results may be surprising.  Rigorous analysis may reveal that if the first click goes to a specific ad, the person is 20% less likely to buy.  Pausing that ad may boost sales by 5%.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m skeptical of CRM - Conference Room Marketing.  Things don&#039;t need to make sense when presented to the group.  Ideas that are clear and quickly accepted may actually hurt the business.  Ideas that everyone rejects as nonsense and flat out wrong may actually work quite well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I like This Old House because in this complex world it is relaxing and comforting to watch skilled people succeed in an environment where reasonably simple rules, like measure once and cut twice, will do the trick.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My job involves imponderables, complexities beyond my comprehension.  When the spreadsheets go up for the senior execs, I sit quietly, waiting to talk with the consultant at lunch, where we will talk shop and reveal how little we really know, where we will talk about what the spreadsheets don&#039;t contain, where we will acknowledge that our different approaches are often mere personal preferences and not the solid conclusions the black and white numbers on the spreadsheets make them out to be.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Months of work often results in incremental improvements.  While glancing at a few customer records occasionally yields insights and it&#039;s fun to offer up a guess, I am skeptical, since this approach often produces results that give new meaning to your final statement - there are no right answers.  When the data is so complex, how can it be otherwise?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like painting a house, my experience with these projects is that 90% of the job is prep work.  After six months of getting a data set ship shape, relatively simple statistical analysis will produce great results.</p><p>As I believe Jeff Bezos once said, Amazon&#39;s greatest asset is it&#39;s database.  As the provider of an application, your greatest asset may be having multiple databases, one for each customer, with all databases structured identically.</p><p>Once you do the hard work for one customer, the prize will be a database that has been restructured many times, with additional database tables of derived data.  With data that&#39;s just right you can run the statistics and show the results.</p><p>The payoff will be that all customers will have the new database, so the usual need for a custom job and expensive prep work will be gone.  Each customer will only need to let their account run and their database fill, and the built in statistics formula will present some wonderful attribution reports.</p><p>The results may be surprising.  Rigorous analysis may reveal that if the first click goes to a specific ad, the person is 20% less likely to buy.  Pausing that ad may boost sales by 5%.</p><p>I&#39;m skeptical of CRM &#8211; Conference Room Marketing.  Things don&#39;t need to make sense when presented to the group.  Ideas that are clear and quickly accepted may actually hurt the business.  Ideas that everyone rejects as nonsense and flat out wrong may actually work quite well.</p><p>I like This Old House because in this complex world it is relaxing and comforting to watch skilled people succeed in an environment where reasonably simple rules, like measure once and cut twice, will do the trick.</p><p>My job involves imponderables, complexities beyond my comprehension.  When the spreadsheets go up for the senior execs, I sit quietly, waiting to talk with the consultant at lunch, where we will talk shop and reveal how little we really know, where we will talk about what the spreadsheets don&#39;t contain, where we will acknowledge that our different approaches are often mere personal preferences and not the solid conclusions the black and white numbers on the spreadsheets make them out to be.</p><p>Months of work often results in incremental improvements.  While glancing at a few customer records occasionally yields insights and it&#39;s fun to offer up a guess, I am skeptical, since this approach often produces results that give new meaning to your final statement &#8211; there are no right answers.  When the data is so complex, how can it be otherwise?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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